Tenten Joujou Kaitenbou
2002-11-01

rating:3.5 of 5

You've heard of rotating sushi?  This is rotating yamucha (dim sum)

I'm guessing at the name since the real name is only written in Kanji and you can't tell how to pronounce Kanji in Japanese without asking.

I think most people in Tokyo know about this place in Odaiba at the Odaiba Little Hong Kong.  A mall inside a mall that's theme is Hong Kong and has about 10 Chinese restaurants.

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Let me start off by saying although I probably don't know what *real* dim sum is.  I do feel like Tokyo doesn't have any.  In L.A. we have like 1 million Chinese immigrants or something like that.  You can drive for half an hour down Garfield Ave and see almost non stop Chinese signs.  So, in L.A. that also means we have quite a bit of good dim sum.

The Japanese call it Yamucha and so far every time I've had it it's not been as good as L.A's  Is that because it's just different or is it because it's been Japanified.  Kind of like Taco Bell or Chevy's is Americanified Mexican food.

On top of that, when I go to eat dim sum I want the following experience.  I want a big restaurant with lots of tables for 8 or more people..  I want it to be busy.  I want people pushing carts around with all the food on it to look at and point at.  I want my table full of 10 or more types of food within 5 minutes of sitting down and I want chili sauce and Chinese mustard.  And, after having eaten 10 to 15 kinds of food I want it to be cheap.  $10 a person.  The cheap plates as low as $1 a plate and you get 4 items per plate.

In Japan so far what I get is:  A small restaurant with most tables seating only 4 people at most.  No carts, instead I get a menu.  I order from the menu and items come one or two at a time with several minutes between the time I finish one set and the time I get the next.  For sauces I get soy sauce, vinegar, spicy oil.  At $4 plate and often only 3 items per it ends up being $25 a person or more. 

On top of that some items are different.  Japanese apparently don't like Char Shu Bow so they mostly don't exist. (BBQ pork buns or Cha Shu Man to the Japanese)  Instead you get non-BBQ pork buns which to be honest are bland as hell.  The Japanese also apparently don't like the white sesame paste inside deep fried sesame balls so instead they put anko paste inside (red bean paste).  Both of these things exist in China I'm sure and maybe in some region they are common.  But, as I'm used to it different I don't like it.  Especially as you can get Buta-man (non BBQ pork buns) at any combini in Japan and anko beans are in 90% of Japanese desserts so when I go to a Chinese restaurant for dim sum I want something I can't get other places, not more of the same.

And of course because the sauces are different even the stuff that is the same as L.A. does not taste the same.

After about 6 or 7 of those kinds of experiences I stopped going to dim sum in Japan.

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But, I had seen the kaiten dim sum place a few times when I was in Odaiba.  It's very popular and I got to thinking, if nothing else at least I'll get the dishes fast.  Not as fast as a real dim sum place but faster than a normal Japanese one.

So....how was it?  Surprisingly it was not bad.  They had a pretty good selection.  It mostly came fast.  And, it was mostly good considering all the above stuff.

Most of all it was just fun and interesting.  The conveyer has a steamer built in every 4th position so the items that need to be kept steamed are....kept steamed.  We must have eaten 15 different dishes and it was not a bad price.  We got out of there for about 2500 yen each which was less than I was expecting.

If you are interested they've got pictures of every item on their menu on their website.

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Comments:

Tokyo Daihanten [ e ]

This place used to have trundling carts and all...as you can see here: http://www.metropolis.co.jp/
tokyo/412/restaurants.asp

A Chinese acquaintance also recommended it (at least a year or so ago).

Unfortunately, I haven't made it there, yet. 

I also am from L.A. and miss good dim sum; my sister-in-law is Chinese and knows some good spots in various parts of LA (we used to go to ABC in Chinatown). 

If you're ever in West LA, there are a couple of mouth-watering, cart-pushing places (especially if you like seafood): Royal Star on Wilshire in Santa Monica and VIP Harbor also on Wilshire in WLA.

posted by AnnieExpatNovember 2, 2002 at 3:33

LA Dim Sum [ e ]

I've been to Royal Star on Wilshire.  I used to live about a 10 minutes walk from there (Bundy and Wilshire).  They were pretty good.  You should try Ocean Star or better, NBC Seafood over in the Monterey Park area.  Ocean Star I believe is more famous but NBC has more selection.

Just Today, Nov 2nd, the new Shun Kan (sp?) opened up in Shinjuku.  Basically they remodeled the top 2 floors of My City in Shinjuku station and it may now be the most oshare (fashionable) restaurant-gai (lit:restaurant road) in Tokyo.  There is a dim sum place there.  I think it's a chain.  Something Ten-shin.  It looked good.  Actually almost everything there looked good, probably because of the remodeling.

I wouldn't doubt if that whole place quickly became too crowed to go pretty much every single day.  It's really that nice looking.  Check it out.

posted by greggmanNovember 2, 2002 at 12:39

Thanks [ e ]

I'll try to check out Ocean Star or NBC next time I'm in LA...I think my brother has mentioned that the best Chinese places were there, but it's somewhat of a haul from West LA.

Since you like ethnic too, you should check out a Oaxacan restaurant (I think it's in Palms, although there are a couple of others in central LA) my mom introduced me to: Guelaguetza...goat tacos, and a variety of stupendous yellow and red moles, and.... Yum!

I'm only a skip and jump from Shinjuku on the Odakyu and will take a look at the redeveloped floors of My Sheety (you know what I mean).  Always looking for new taste sensations.  Thanks.

posted by AnnieExpatNovember 3, 2002 at 3:18

Chiao Sao bao/Cha shiao bao [ e ]

Your Chinese is piss-poor Gregory! Man, you can't have Deem sam without Chiao Sao! Aiyaaaa!

posted by anon_InTaiwanNovember 6, 2002 at 7:24

yamucha [ e ]

The reason why it's called yamucha in japan is because it's also called a different name by some people (interchangeable with dimsum), "yum cha" -- I think this means "eat tea", literally.

It would be interesting to see dimsum adopted with japanese foods i.e. little jpn tidbits like takoyaki and sushi instead of chinese dishes ^.~  That's one thing I don't like about japanese restaurants in the states, no dim sum type meals where you can sample instead of having just a main dish.

posted by grumpsSeptember 5, 2003 at 0:05

Yamucha vs Izakaya [ e ]

I think what you want is an Izakaya

Most Izakaya have a large variety of Japanese food including sushi, sashimi, takoyaki, yakisoba, okonomiyaki, kushiyaki, yakiika, udon, soba, salads, etc etc etc.  Here's a typical menu and it's all relatively cheap.

To bad there aren't more of those in the states.

posted by greggmanSeptember 5, 2003 at 11:42